Muslims inhabited the Americas centuries before it was colonised by European settlers

The rise and fall of Mo Ansar

Nick Cohen: Writing from London

Broadcasters made him the voice of British Islam, even though no electorate had voted for him, and no organisation had appointed him its spokesperson. Ansar was not an Islamic scholar. He had not published a book or led a movement. He was a planning manager at Lloyds-TSB in Winchester until 2006, and has had no visible means of support except appearance fees and state benefits for years

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A Veritable Flood

It never rains, but it pours

@MoAnsar’s discourse with @Flood2171656 – runs to around a hundred tweets over the first few days of December 2011. 

@MoAnsar2 gets involved when aggressive atheist @Alpha_male41510 enters the fray and begins to insult Flood. During that exchange, MoAnsar2 changes his name to Ansar ‘The_TruthTeller’ and then to ‘Truth Teller – The_TruthTeller’.

During the exchange between Ansar with Flood, (both of Ansar’s accounts) and following Ansar’s 2nd account entering the discourse, complete with a name change from MoAnsar2 to Ansar-The_TruthTeller to The_TruthTeller, Flood changed his name to ‘ZionistWit’ (seems to be 8th December 2011)

Mohammed Ansar @moansar

@Flood2171656 @2Nav John 16:7, John 16:12-14 – Christ was pretty clear about the coming of a final prophet. The locals knew it too.  2 years ago
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Jesus was as he described himself, a messenger sent to the lost sheep of israel, here to uphold the law, not change it.  2 years ago
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav He never claimed divinity, he forbade interest, swine, paganism, he had a beard and wore a robe praying prostrate.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav I know them, the question is do you, or do you follow conjecture or the teachings of Paul?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 the King James version talks of the trinity = the revised standard edition uses the most authentic scriptures and states..
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav ..backed by 32 scholars of highest eminence, 50 co-operating denominations, the Trinity is a fabrication, interpolation.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Actually the KJV that most evangelists transcribe too is utterly flawed and many verses have been fabricated.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav I’ll talk normal English if you do the same. No preaching here, merely discourse. Jesus was a man not God.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Do me a favour, spend 2 mins and check my blog and i’ll wait to hear your thoughts:moansar.blogspot.com/2006/04/why-ch…
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav PS, lets keep capitals for emphasis, ok?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Its a little easier than 160 characters and it gives us a starting point. Assuming you want to discuss to find truth.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav If you emphasise everything, then nothing is emphasised.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav I do massah each and everyday. Christos is from the Greek to anoint. 2bn Muslims do it daily.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Which Gospels? 67 books of protestants or the 72 books of the Douay Rheims, or perhaps the 33,000 manuscripts left out?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav This is not about Baptism. It is about truth. Jesus never claimed divinity, he forbade pork, prayed prostrate, bearded..
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav .. he commended women to cover their hair (Timothy, Romans), and fasted 1 month per yr. Sound Muslim or Christian?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Did you want a discourse, or merely to preach and go feeling good? The seed has been sowed, you have doubts.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Question for you: Do you follow Christ or Paul?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Like I said, do you follow Christ or Paul. Christ forbade pork & killed pigs, Paul said eat what you want. Which is it?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Idiocy and blasphemy.Paul never met, nor spoke to Christ. He had some dreams. He doesnt outrank Jesus!

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav I assume you eat pork, love ham? Bacon?Breaking the laws of Christ and following Paul. Think about it.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav You’re missing the point. Jesus slaughtered swine by forcing 1000 into the sea. He forbade pig meat for all. And you?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav John 14:28, John 10:29, Mathew 12:28, Luke 11:20, John 5:30, Acts 2:21 – Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. Not once. Never.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Come on old bean, speak English. Anyone can quote scripture.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav 150 versions of the bible, some 67 books, some 72, tens of thousand pages left out since Council of Nicaea. Think.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Jesus was born in October according to scripture. But Xmas in December – mixed with Saturnalia paganism and Yule paganism.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Easter, named after Roman pagan goddess Eostre (new life). Not to do with a resurrection. Think about it.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 @2Nav Islam honours Jesus and the Prophets, the holy books and the messengers. Buddha, Moses, Abraham, Jesus. All of them.
Anonymous PaperBoy™ @dnaofahustla415
Muhammad couldnt read nor write.. butRT @MoAnsar2@Flood2171656 I’ve read the bible, cover to (cont) tl.gd/egandt
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Give me your thoughts on Christmas in December – Saturnalia & Yule paganism. What would Jesus make of that?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Listen, one tweet at a time. No caps, one issue at a time. Good manners or you’ll be blocked, fair?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Firstly, I love the Bible. Muslims accept the teachings and practices which Christ lived by. We reject the inauthentic.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 This isn’t a battle. Interfaith discourse is to improve understanding, at its best a pursuit for the truth.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Listen friend, I don’t want u to convert. Islam is against proselytizing.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 You’re a preacher of Christianity, and I’ve noted your recent tirade of abuse. The question remains, what is Christmas?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Muslims uphold & honour the Scriptures, follow the example of Jesus, pray, fast. In fact we are the best Christians.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Last chance, let’s talk nicely. Don’t be abusive and ill have a discussion with you. Show that famous Christian spirit.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 The house of prayer is the first house of worship built by Adam, then Abraham. 2bn people pray 5x daily.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 If you don’t want to talk about Christmas, I appreciate it can be difficult with the paganism, what other topic my friend?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Leave your Zionism for another time. Talk Christianity.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Christians believe in all the messengers of God. Adam built the first place of worship on the planet rededicated by Abraham.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 The president of Syria is an Alawi, not considered Muslim, rejected by scholars of Islam.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Relax a moment, this will take a couple of tweets…

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 God sent messengers to reveal his chosen way of life for mankind. It came in ‘parts’, ‘updates’ if you want.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 ..some have gotten off the train a little early and didn’t stay until the last stop. Those who lived in the Holy Lands…

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 …went to the last stop, last messenger, the final revelation. And are hence Muslim (those who sumbit to the will of God).
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 ..the temples became churches, then became mosques. Muslims believe in Christ & his revelation & 2nd coming. Jews, none.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Did you read my comments, friend.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Only God sees what is within our hearts and whose intention is pure.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Islam accepts Christ, his divine birth, miracles, 2nd coming & holy revelation. Why are you then not close to them?

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Lets finish the first matter, then happy to look at this next. Please refrain from the capitals / preaching – helpful.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Is it ok if we complete the first conversation before moving to the next. Some sensible structure is helpful perhaps.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 If you appreciate the basic Islamic position, it makes our conversation flow much easier (God willing).

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Islamic view of Christ: his revelation, 2nd coming, birth & life. Why are u not closer to Muslims? Jews accept none of this.

 

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Can you come back to me on the original question? Understanding now the Islamic position on Christ…
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Please check my previous tweets to you a few minutes ago. I hope you are reading, not just typing.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Brother, with love and respect, I can’t spend time in a one directional conversation.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Islam reveres his revelation, 2nd coming, birth, life, miracles, mother. Why not closer to Muslims? Jews accept none of this.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Appreciate it if you answered this.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Judaism allows divorce. Like Christianity it put no limit on the number of wives. Islam limited it to four. And then?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 You have to set aside your bias and prejudice. Be Christian.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 My friend, Islam accepts the Torah, Psalms of David, revelation of Christ + the final revelation which confirms those books.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 So Islam believes in Christ, his revelation, second coming. Judaism does not. Your comment?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Jews do not accept Christ, the Messiah, second coming, the Bible, the message, miraculous birth. Nothing.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 See the issue. Islam is kin to Christianity, loves Christ, reveres him. Judaism nit, yet you go to them. Oppressive & unjust?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Again, Islam, the Quran, reveres Mary, Christ – risen to heaven alive to come again. A miraculous birth & life. Jews none.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Ludicrous and spiteful and you know it. Zionists and Crusaders destroyed that city, do your history.
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 You know this to be a lie, oppression, yet do it. Hypocrisy and injustice does not put you on the path of Christ does it?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 He who drinks alcohol, oppresses believers in Christ & God, loves those who persecuted and killed him, eats pig, does Xmas?
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 You are worried about the splinter in my foot but miss the log in your own eye – hypocrisy & oppressive injustice. Christian?
Lost Tribes Brew @losttribesbrew
@Flood2171656 @plaid_alassad thank you. Please spread the word. After all, we are all just talking about the house of David. #onelove
Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@Flood2171656 Feel free to visit my blog and leave a message or an email address. We can continue the conversation in detail via email. Thx.
Anonymous PaperBoy™ @dnaofahustla415
@Flood2171656 you still yapping.. go play some where kid!

8th December 2011 is the last time anyone tweeted Flood. They subsquently changed their name to ZionistWit.

The boy who cried wolf

The boy who cried wolf

You think you’re clever, peaceful and clean
But constantly unraveling at each tangled seam
You preach for peace, inclusion, tolerance and love
By spouting intolerance, segregation and hate

Back pedal, deny, delete and ignore
Challenging anyone and everyone with insults galore
The despicable treatment of your fellow man
By slander and crying whenever you can

You are an inspiration in every wrong way
You bring people together every day
But not like you think, it’s not at all good
You’re like the grim reaper cloaked with black hood

I call you a boy because you’re not yet a man
A real man doesn’t play games
So try to grow up if you can
It will be a difficult task but with some reflection, I’m sure
You could practice and practice til your heart becomes pure

Passive aggressive and narcissistic traits
Will come round to bite you, that is called fate
Karma has started and it will role on
All that you give will to you return upon

Until you stop acting with your foolish charade
Lining folk up for your shooting parade
I admire your qualities although all I despise

Your pathetic attention seeking
And visions of wolf
that you cry

Rude Girl x

Mohammed Ansar’s Views On Homosexuality

CarrotHead @CarrotHead
@MoAnsar What is your view on homosexuality?
28 Jan 2012

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@CarrotHead Hate the sin not the sinner.
2 years ago

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@RozinaSini @PeterTatchell the Islamic view is that we hate the sin, not the sinner. Why would it be punishable? Only if used in public..
28 Jan 2012

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@adilray ..some will criticise me for my stand on homosexuality and advocacy for gay rights. I don’t mind. On Islam being a great…
27 Feb 2012

Adil Ray @adilray
@MoAnsar whats your stance on homosexuality?
27 Feb 2012

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@adilray Again, all joking aside. Each to their own. Hate the sin not the sinner. But sexuality is for the home, it is a personal matter.
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Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@DuncanDCH …mistreatment, discrimination or oppression should be accorded. Dislike the sin not the sinner is the general principle.
2 years ago

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@janemcqueen In Islam, rudeness to parents, looking lustfully & eating appetites; also immoral. Sin and the sinner are separate entities.
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Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@isawfireworks ..fundamental rule is hate the sin, not the sinner. There should be no oppression of people based on sexuality.
2 years ago

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@MarkAAPorter ..perspective, I dont agree with it, but you hate the sin not the sinner. Is it better or worse than saying a hurtful word…
2 years ago

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
@NickAhad As to the “sin” of homosexuality, which is often the question; firstly, one can hate the sin, but never the sinner. Secondly, who
2 years ago

Mohammed Ansar @moansar
“Hate the sin,not the sinner” only from the wise. @MoAnsar 👌
11 months ago Retweeted by @moansar

Mo Ansar ‘offends’ me.

Futile Democracy

Quilliam Founder Maajid Nawaz took an unfathomably brave step yesterday when, as a Muslim, he posted a cartoon on Twitter of the Prophet Muhammad (The fact that this can be described as a brave step, is deeply troubling in itself). Predictably, the cartoon sparked a storm of feigned outrage (self-pity, as the rest of us call it) across social media. Immediately threats were sent, and anger registered. The sort of anger that Christians registered at the opening of “The Life of Brian” for much the same reasons; they don’t like what they consider to be “blasphemy” and that we should all play by their rules (whilst they themselves wish the freedom to criticise and mock ‘the West’, democracy, homosexuality, and anything else they relentlessly disapprove of).

It is important to note that it is not my place to tell you what is and isn’t offensive to you. If you find…

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The Dabbling Theologian

Jesus and Mo

Why does self-proclaimed “muslim voice” @MoAnsar promote the world view of one of America’s most notorious Christian Rightwing antiSemites as an academic authority on Jesus, Christianity, Jews and Judaism? A world-view that is hosted on an Islamophobic, antiSemitic website http://www.biblebelievers.org.au.

More Far Right hate-speech can be found on this website, for example, the pseudo-comparative theology claim that ‘Allah is a Moon God’.


According to Mohammed Ansar, Jesus was not a Jew.  Ansar bases his opinion on the work of Benjamin H. Freedman, “a notorious anti-Semite” on the American Far Right .

@moansar: @peejaybhoy Believing the bull you were brainwashed with? He was a Judean not a Jew. Try the 1400s for that little addition to ur faith.”
@moansar: “@anticameron Not at all. Did you Jesus only became considered ‘Jewish’ in the Middle Ages. Before then he was always known as Judean.”
@moansar: “@Simon_Carless Did you know he was described as a Judean until the middle ages when Christendom decided to align with Judaism?”
@moansar: “@israelradioguy Judean, perhaps. Jewish, unlikely. He was only referred to in English translations as a “Jew” after the Middle Ages.”

How is it known that Ansar obtained his viewpoint from Freedman?

Bizarrely, Ansar refers to Freedman as a “Jewish historian”, yet Freedman, who was born in the Jewish faith, practiced [Roman] Catholicism….”:

Freedman joined forces with the anti-Semitic hate-preacher Gerald L. K. Smith and KKK member and Christian Idenity key founder Wesley Swift to campaign against Anna M. Rosenberg

The “academic” Mo referrs to is Benjamin H. Freedman. The above claim comes from Freedman’s “Facts are Facts” pamphlet, copies of which can be found on the anti-Muslim anti-Jewish hate site, biblebelievers.org.au, which Ansar tweeted to at least three times123 between July and December 2012 to support his “interfaith” activism on twitter:

It is an incontestable fact that the word “Jew” did not come into existence until the year 1775. Prior to 1775 the word “Jew” did not exist in any language. The word “Jew” was introduced into the English for the first time in the 18th century when Sheridan used it in his play “The Rivals”, II,i, “She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew”. Prior to this use of the word “Jew” in the English language by Sheridan in 1775 the word “Jew” had not become a word in the English language. Shakespeare never saw the word “Jew” as you will see. Shakespeare never used the word “Jew” in any of his works, the common general belief to the contrary notwithstanding. In his “Merchant of Venice”, V.III.i.61, Shakespeare wrote as follows: “what is the reason? I am a Iewe, hath not a Iewe eyes ?” ~ Benajmin H. Freedman, Facts are Facts.

Why does this self-proclaimed “muslim voice” promote the world view of one of America’s most notorious Christian Right wing anti-Semites as an academic authority on Jesus, Christianity, Jews and Judaism? A world-view that is, in this instance, hosted on an Islamophobic, anti-Semitic, website http://www.biblebelievers.org.au. More Far Right hate-speech can be found on this website, for example, the pseudo-comparative theology claim that ‘Allah is a Moon God’.